Kevin Rose · Mar 11, 2024 · 3:16 PM
Inbound · 08:42 · Planner: Pam Chavez · +17752246283
“we definitely wanna cancel the Viking Alaska one...we got Africa safari where we want to call it we're thinking about that. Big-time.”
Contact Donna to confirm Kevin and Carrie can join the October 3rd Tauck South Africa tour, then send Kevin the full tour details, pricing breakdown, and airfare options (including business-class estimates and stopover availability). Follow up by Thanksgiving when 2025 airfare opens for booking.
Full analysis
What happened
Kevin called to discuss canceling his Viking Alaska cruise (September 2025) because he and his wife Carrie now want to join a South Africa safari tour with Tauck (October 3rd) that the agent's sister Donna is organizing with 18 people. Kevin learned about the trip from others and is eager to participate, though he's respectfully concerned about joining an existing group without explicit permission. The agent agreed to check with Donna. Kevin also asked about included amenities (free hotel pre-tour), airfare options, and pricing. He was already on the Tauck website during the call. The agent confirmed the cancellation will proceed and said she'd follow up after speaking with Donna.
Emotional read
Kevin is casual, friendly, and collaborative throughout the call. He's enthusiastic about the Africa safari idea and speaks warmly about the recommendation from people he met in Spain. He shows some initial caution about joining the group uninvited, but this is respectful rather than anxious—he's being courteous about not wanting to intrude on Donna's party.
Emotional arc through the call
Kevin remained warm and collaborative throughout; his only shift was from initial caution about joining the group to greater confidence after learning the organizer doesn't know all 18 people and is actively recruiting, which eased his concern about being an outsider.
How customer sees Pavlus
- neutral · mentioned previous experience booking an expedition cruise with a Pavlus agent who gave them credit
- neutral · referred to Pavlus handling the cancellation of the Alaska booking, no commentary on the process itself
Value perception
Kevin did not explicitly comment on Pavlus's value relative to booking direct. He appeared comfortable with the agent handling the cancellation and expressed willingness to work with her on the Tauck booking pending group confirmation.
Customer behaviors
actively researching competing tour operator (Tauck) website during callseeking reassurance before committing to group bookingcomparing airfare options and layover strategiescanceling existing booking to pivot to new destinationdeferring decision pending third-party (group organizer) approval
Topics & signals
| Topics | Alaska cruise cancellationAfrica safari tour interestSouth Africa group tourAirfare planningGroup booking dynamicsHotel inclusions |
|---|---|
| Destinations | AlaskaAfricaSouth AfricaCape TownJohannesburgLondonNorthern Spain |
| Cruise lines | VikingTauck |
| Buying signals | already researching Tauck website while on the callwilling to cancel existing Viking Alaska bookingdiscussing specific travel dates and group size seriouslyasking detailed questions about included amenities and airfare options |
| Objections | hesitant to join existing group without checking with organizer firstuncertain about airfare costs and booking mechanics for multi-leg flightsconcerned about long international travel time from Reno (38+ hours) |
Analyzed 2026-05-28 07:06:36 by claude-haiku-4-5-20251001. Confidence 0.78.
Transcript (10,053 chars)
Agent (Pam Chavez): Good morning Pavi travel this spam. Customer: Hey, Pam. Kevin rose. How you doing today? No, I'm doing hokey door. I know you guys are busy. Busy, busy. Agent (Pam Chavez): I'm doing okay. Thank you. And how are you? Agent (Pam Chavez): Bat. Customer: Yeah, here, here's what we're thinking of doing. We have an Alaska cruise booked for like September 2025. Agent (Pam Chavez): Uh-huh. Customer: I probably want to cancel it because Carrie and I are now thinking of doing a tour over in Africa someplace, you said, she talked to some people and say, we should go on a safari or one of those, whatever you want. Agent (Pam Chavez): Oh. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah, that's, excuse me. That I've got, I don't know sixteen guest going. My sister being one of them, the one that you met on the, on the biking cruise. They're gonna do the Donna, yeah. They are doing South Africa and egan adventure, October 3rd of next mm-hmm. Customer: Yeah, that I forgot her name. Which one is, yeah, Donna. Yeah, which one are they doing? Customer: Is that with? Customer: Yeah, that's kind of the one what we're thinking of. Wow, okay. Yeah. Agent (Pam Chavez): How funny? I wonder, I mean see the thing is I've got sixteen people, there's 23 people, 24 people on the group. I mean that are actually going, I mean that's the maximum mount of people. I think she said $24 something that I can't remember exactly what the amount of the group is but, I mean not shoot! Because if I put. Customer: Yeah. Customer: Wow. Customer: Oh, okay. Customer: Yeah. Customer: How did, yeah, how did she get that many? I mean is she travel with a group or what's the deal? Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah, yeah. Well, and, and it really is my, my. Agent (Pam Chavez): Sisters sister-in-law but another sister sister-in-law she's the one that kept on talking about wanting to go on this tour and one of their friends, one of my sister's friends has actually been on it said it was the best tour that they've ever done in the past and they've done like fifteen al. tours. Customer: Oh, okay, yeah. Customer: Right. Customer: Yeah. Customer: Yeah, we. Customer: Okay. Yeah we talked to some people when we went to northern Spain and it was a lady and a guy who they're not married but they travel ag. And they said they told us she got to go, I mean, you know they just said you gotta do it once in your life. So, so October 3rd is that what the, okay, cause I just went to the tach website. Yeah and it looks and how many people's your sister got hooked up. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yes, October 3rd is when everyone's going uh-huh. Agent (Pam Chavez): Nine. Customer: That's bizarre. Yeah, yeah, take your time. Oh, okay. Agent (Pam Chavez): Hold on just a second. Yeah. Hold on just a second. I thought that was sixteen or maybe it's 14624681012141618, oh, shit, sorry. Excuse me, eighteen people. Customer: No worries. Dil. No, these a, these are family and friends you said or? Agent (Pam Chavez): So that? Agent (Pam Chavez): Is yeah, like there's a few there, I mean, you know, a few family members, my two sisters are going and their sister-in-law and then the rest are just friends Betty. My, my sister sister-in-law Betty is, I mean, she's just told one person, another, another person tells another person and it's kinda like, it just keeps on building, I'm kinda curious though, so, that's eighteen if I put you on this group, if that's, I mean, I'd have to, you know, make sure it's okay with her and stuff, but that would get you pretty close. Customer: Yeah, okay. Customer: Damn, yeah. Customer: Yeah. Customer: Okay, get snow balls. Customer: Yeah, let me well, yeah, yeah, I didn't, yeah, we wanna, you were thinking about it. I don't know if I wanna book right now if you want to check with her, that's cool. But we definitely wanna cancel the with a Viking Alaska one that we wanna cancel just, just cause we want to leave. Yes. It's like it leaves. Agent (Pam Chavez): Okay, let me find that. Oh, there it is. Ryan on the 14th of August. Customer: Yes, I think that's it, yeah, that was it. Yeah, cause we would get gonna go to Denali and, and I'm not worried about the $50 deposit or whatever they have we put on. Agent (Pam Chavez): Mm-hmm. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah. Well, it's 40485 by the way. Customer: Yeah, by the time they do their silly. Yes, it's funny how they do that. They, I, they, you know, yeah, we just, they gave us $300 shipboard. Credit and then you know, you book tours, you probably know this stuff biking it instead of giving you $300 back when you get on a ship. They put it in your account and it came out to like $290.10 or some shit, they take you 3.3, even whatever. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, if we can cancel that Alaska one for a 2025. And like I said, I'm not worried about the silly deposit cause when we booked that, we were on the expedition and then the guy gave us some credit, he goes take the credit and I don't care if you cancel it or not. Okay. Agent (Pam Chavez): Right. Agent (Pam Chavez): Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Agent (Pam Chavez): They yeah. Agent (Pam Chavez): Less than that. Mm-hmm oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Agent (Pam Chavez): Okay. Agent (Pam Chavez): Okay, so, I'm gonna ask her if it's okay to add you to the group if you, if you guys decide to. Customer: Yeah, so. Customer: Yeah, yeah. I don't want to get in the middle of. Customer: Yeah, and what's is to, are they still offer the free hotel and advance? Agent (Pam Chavez): Yes. At this point they are, yes. The gift of time. Mm-hmm. Customer: Okay. Yes. So, we, you, okay, now here's a question. I know. Getting over the sucks. Have you even looked at their airfare? I know but I, you can, no, I always play the game at looking at 2024 cause it's kinda be the same but it's like, oh, I know. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah, it does. Well, I can't yet, not until the Thanksgiving time. Agent (Pam Chavez): Right. Agent (Pam Chavez): Oh, yeah, business class is going to be what $7,000 a piece maybe I would get guess. Customer: Yeah. And you know, from Reno it takes like 38 hours. I don't know what Albuquerque if they got to go to like, Dallas or dinner or whatever the hell they do. But yeah. Agent (Pam Chavez): Oh, yeah. Well, I think I don't know if, but like my sister and my sister's, I know, I'm gonna do their airfare and they always fly business as well. But I think, I I mean, kinda sorta I'm gonna maybe suggest perhaps overnight in London. I mean, cause that's along enough flight to get to London, and then another, what, eight hours, nine hours or ten hours whatever to get to Janis or wherever it starts. Customer: Yeah. Customer: Yeah. Customer: That's. Customer: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Customer: Yeah, no, I was looking at that too. Or you know, some people fly to blonder or frankford or some shit and just get a hotel for a day. And then exactly rather than get, you, do they charge extra for all that. Or can can you combine it into 11 ticket? I don't know how that works. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah, or strada or something. Yeah. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah, it, it'll be one ticket, it just be considered to stop over sometimes they charge sometimes they don't. Customer: Yeah. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. Does, does Tak offer kind of, a, yeah, go ahead. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah, so it's it leave. Agent (Pam Chavez): It goes into Capetown end and Johanns so take a look at the me to send you the details of this one. Customer: Right. Customer: I'm on, I'm on the talk website now believe it or not I pulled it up, I'll talking to you do does talk offer any kind of airfares it same old coca that anybody. Agent (Pam Chavez): Okay. Agent (Pam Chavez): But it, they do but for $2,025 I have no idea on this one. I mean it's basically gonna be a published a. Customer: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know if. Customer: Oh, okay. Okay, got it. Yeah. So alright, yeah, and if you want to just ask your sister, just for the heck of it, I just, like I said, I hate to barge on somebody's big, yeah, party and stuff but. Agent (Pam Chavez): No. I mean, I don't think I, it's it like a, I know my sisters don't know half of the people they know maybe out of the eighteen, they probably know. Customer: Oh, okay. Agent (Pam Chavez): About ten, maybe ten or eight or ten people. So, the other, the others, the others, yeah, no, the others have been telling somebody else and somebody else and somebody else and, and they keep on, everyone wants to go to South Africa. Customer: Oh, like half or something. Okay, yeah. I just didn't want to get into, yeah. Customer: Okay, okay. Customer: Yeah, yeah, I understand. Yeah, if you want to ask him like I said I if I hate to, if somebody's got a, a group you know, I don't want to be the load a man out or wherever you Wa, call so, yeah, cool. Agent (Pam Chavez): Oh, yeah, well, I mean I like I said I don't, I don't think you would be actually need to, I need know Donna. Customer: Yeah, yeah. Yup. Is she still? Did she marry that guy she was with? Okay. Are they. Agent (Pam Chavez): So. Agent (Pam Chavez): No, no they haven't gotten married. They're both lesser spouses and stuff. So it's I mean it's kinda like a, a really good match for the two of them and stuff. But they I mean they've been living together for a Britt. Customer: Yeah. Customer: Yeah, forgot his name. Customer: Yeah, he's in what is it? Yeah, yeah, seemed like a nice guy. How about you? Cool. Alright, cool. Yeah if you want to, yeah, if you can cancel, yeah, if you can, if you can cancel that Viking. Like I said we may reschedule that for 2026 but we definitely want to we got Africa safe where we want to call it we're thinking about that. Big-time, cool. Alright, well let me know what they say and like, yeah, sounds like a plan. Alright. Agent (Pam Chavez): Britt, BR. Brett. Agent (Pam Chavez): Yeah, alright, well when I find out. Agent (Pam Chavez): Okay. Agent (Pam Chavez): Okay. Agent (Pam Chavez): Alright, alright. I will text you, okay. Thanks, have a good day. Bye. Customer: Yup, alright. See you. Bye-bye.